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Wednesday, April 25, 2012

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Barbie Pinto

I’ll admit that I have stood during the curtain call of shows I didn’t think merited this once sacred practice, mainly because I didn’t want to be the one asshat in the audience sitting in defiance of the practice (and also so I could see the stage).

Loren A. Roberts (guru of multi-hyphenate media)

See, standing ovations are even harder in the classical music world. Interpretation varies, and sometimes something that sounds really good could be completely "wrong" to purists, or people who have studies the music extensively. For instance, a few months ago I had the privilege of hearing the American Youth Symphony performing Prokofiev's Suite from Romeo and Juliet, and it was stunning. Me and my dad stood up immediately, because although I knew they had taken the piece much faster than was normal, the conducting and performing was absolutely stunning. But we (and a handful of others) were the only ones that stood. And I wonder if that was because the audience knew it had been performed too fast. (And I am not one to stand up at the end of a piece; as a performer, I like to save my standing O's for truly outstanding moments...)

Is a standing ovation an emotional thing, like you describe? Or an acknowledgement that the performers have done something technically close to perfection? What is the rubric for determining when a standing O is justified?

Haley Bond

I'm totally a sitter.

Like the last person to stand after everyone else has gotten up, mostly because I can no longer see anything. Unless a show is particularly special and, like Greg, has moved me to rise up out of my seat. (ex: One Man Two Guvners, Book of Mormon, South Pacific).

The level of work that everyone puts into shows like that is so high I can do nothing but stand out of pure exhilaration.

So when I am at a show in which the writers, cast, director, etc. (it could be any or all of them) don't get me emotionally involved- because they don't effectively tell a moving story- I don't feel compelled to stand.
And maybe it's the Catholic in me but I would feel like a total liar if I stood.

I regret that we no longer live in a time where there is an unspoken code of conduct for the theatre. Before cell phones, movie theatre candy and before jeans were allowed to be worn. The theatre was treated as a higher art form, which it is and still should be.

I really liked Ryan's MT Community Contract. We should all be supportive and refrain from being catty bitches who say "I could have done better", etc.

But along with that there should also be a contract about actually putting out the ABSOLUTE BEST production/performance/material out there. Saying 'fuck you' to producers who don't care about quality and wouldn't know what taste was if they had 6 tongues. It should also, as professionals, be our responsibility to say 'fuck you' to deadlines when you know deep down that what you've created isn't quite the greatest you can produce. Do another rehearsal, do another workshop, do another out of town try out until you know you cannot make it any better.

If we do this, then we're more likely to actually give a Standing-O. A real genuine Standing-O, and everyone standing won't just be the tourists who bussed in from Rochester it will actually be the community. It will mean so much more than the forced stand, the gesture of 'thanks for trying, guys'.

I want to sign Ryan's contract for myself but I'm not one to encourage "art" that is lazy or cautious. I'm super supportive of those who really try to go out on a limb even if they fail- they tried (ex: Women on The Verge- fucking love that show and they failed all over the place). I won't waste my energy standing on shows that made me feel nothing; of which there is a plethora.
I want to be wowed. Whether it's one song, one moment in a persons performance, technical glory, I don't care as long as it's true.
That's why I'm in this business. I will give credit where credit is due, when it is due.

Gregory Jacobs-Roseman (Composer-Lyricist)

Loren:

I don't think there's an exact rubric for determining when to stand and when not to. I think you know it when you feel it. For me it’s that moment of “oh my God, they just DID that!!” that lifts me out of my chair.

I would have loved to hear that performance of Romeo and Juliet. It’s possible that the fast tempo – the inertia of the piece – jolted you out of your seat like in a speeding car that suddenly hit the breaks when you weren’t wearing your seatbelt. But then it’s also possible that it was just incredible that they nailed it at such a breakneck pace. I think the audience for classical music – the real die-hard fans – are much more well versed in the material than the average Broadway patron, so a standing ovation is less common at say, Avery Fisher Hall than it is next door at the Vivian Beaumont. The audience isn’t going to rise out of routine because, well, they’ve been there before and they’ve been there often. An ensemble or soloist is going to have to do something spectacular for them to stand.

But in general, for me a real standing O is an emotional thing, but that usually comes when I sense something close to perfection onstage.

Gregory Jacobs-Roseman (Composer-Lyricist)

Haley:

I absolutely agree with you on principal, but I also agree with Ryan’s contract in that theatre is a business and in business sometimes you do things just to make everyone happy.

I used to be the worst offender of letting my emotions show while sitting in an audience if I didn’t like a piece. After noticing some turned heads, I realized I wasn’t doing myself any favors ‘cause the theatre community in New York has like 12 people in it, and you may only know persons one through six, but chances are one through six know seven through 12.

That said, YES, I do believe we should all be putting the best art forward that we can, and that starts with ourselves. Every actor, writer, director, designer, has a different voice, a different eye, different ears, etc. We can only make what we deem to be the best from our own selves. Sometimes the reality of the business – deadlines, etc. – makes this difficult.

You mentioned Women On The Verge. I saw that show three times. And I’m proud to say: I liked it. Structurally, it was a MESS, but I liked it. The songs were awesome. The performances were great. In my opinion, it just needed more time to gestate, and may have suffered due to a rushed schedule and deadlines. It was frustrating as a writer to watch it and think “I could fix this play. New opening number. Move this scene. Swap these songs. Cut that number. Get rid of this character. Etc.” But I still find myself humming the tunes, and as Dana says in the video clip in my post: that’s “really quite something.”

In the end, when a show doesn’t merit a standing O but everyone stands, I stand too out of politeness. Is it disingenuous? Maybe. But there’s already enough rude people in this business. No sense in being one more.

Shoshana

I've always been reserved in my standing ovations, but if it's a friend's show and everyone else is standing, I'm going to stand too. In general, it's hard to be the one person sitting but I think it's harder to be the only one standing when you give a show a standing ovation and no one else does.

Loren A. Roberts (guru of multi-hyphenate media)

Gregory: I love your well-reasoned responses...thanks.

I think the hard thing for me (and I just admitted to being party to it as well) is that it is easier to get caught up in the moment and give a standing O than it is to really reward the best material and performances with one. What I mean is: sometimes the most emotional performance -- or composition -- isn't necessarily that good -- it's just big and emotional. So we give it a big and emotional response. But I remember one of the best rock concerts I ever went to, where the artist got the crowd to start singing the encore, and then she left the stage while we were still singing...robbing us of the final applause/standing O. But it was an incredibly electric moment. No standing O (because she was gone off the stage and wasn't coming back), but truly incredible nonetheless.

So, it's always an issue for me of standing for a) wonderful bombast, or b) wonderful wonderful-ness?

Sabine Solano

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